Interview of Dr. Luc De Schepper - Part 2  (Back to  Part 1 )

Questions were emailed to Dr. Luc by Greg Cooper; Dr. Luc's answers follow (in brown); November, 2004. 
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Prescribing

GC: Within the last few years, you and a handful of serious homeopathic teachers have rekindled interest in the prescribing techniques of von Boenninghausen. With several more modern repertories available, which have thousands of additional remedies and rubrics, why is it that you choose the Boger-von Boenninghausen Repertory for so many of your students? What is the essence and uniqueness of Boenninghausen's teaching?

Dr. Luc: Very often, I hear in seminars that we can't possibly find the simillimum for our patient "because we have not proved that specific remedy yet." It always reminds me of Hahnemann and then von Boenninghausen how they had so much success with 100 to 125 remedies at their disposition. Von Boenninghausen has never disappointed me whenever I applied his method. Drawing on his vast experience, von Boenninghausen concluded that "the conditions of aggravation and amelioration are not confined to this or that particular symptom but they apply to ALL of the symptoms of the case." So the conditions of aggravations and ameliorations have a far more significant relation to the totality of the symptoms and become the most important factor to determine the simillimum. The NWS or etiology is the number one modality (if known), then come all the other modalities; the concomitant symptoms (called "unreasonable attendants") are second most important. Then sensation, location, pathology and last only, mental/emotional changes are taken into account for the patient's case. Why is this so effective? It follows A95 of the Organon, which explains that patients become accustomed to their prolonged suffering and don't really know anymore what real health is. But concomitant symptoms and modalities have often remained unchanged during this time and are easier to determine than the evaluation of the psyche of the patient, which can be subjected to different interpretations. But on the question, "Is your shoulder pain worse or better by lying on it," most patients can give you a clear answer. I like the method for acute as well as chronic cases, as it shows often the layer remedy, the true constitution of the patient and the acute remedy all at the same time. It is also by far the easiest method to teach and understand, and can be taught in one weekend! And yet it is so little known worldwide!

GC: I understand that Scholten successfully uses the location of each chemical element in the periodic table to predict medicinal uses for the homeopathic form of that element. You have written an entire book on Homeopathy and the Periodic Table in which you say "I am afraid that Scholten's work, as it stands, will never be integrated into the definitive homeopathic materia medica." Can you give us an idea about the similarities and differences between your use of the periodic table and Scholten's ?

Dr. Luc: I was initially fascinated with the analysis of the Periodic Table and homeopathy. First of all, many homeopaths (H. Roberts and Farrington to name a few) had already discussed possible family relationships in these elements. Obviously Scholten took it a step further by now filling in the blanks and making new combinations of remedies, derived solely from their neighborhood to known elements. However I did not like this vast speculation, only supported by few clinical cases (and what about all those cases with the same remedy that did not give a result?). In his introduction in Analytical Repertory of the Symptoms of the Mind, C. Hering states, "There are two different kinds of symptoms, those produced and those cured, and they are essentially different The marking of such different origin should always be done with the utmost care in the monograph of the Materia Medica; it should then be a matter of the highest importance never to mix indiscriminately, symptoms reported as cured (not having been observed on the healthy), with the symptoms produced by the drug (Provings). Hahnemann was right, when he advised us not to be ruled by former cures, but always by the symptoms produced."

Hahnemann warns us not to "infect" our Materia Medica with proven cases, but the only parameter is the proving of the substance. Therefore I investigated by only using the elements of the Periodic Table that were proven, if I could not only expand my knowledge of well known polychrests, but at the same time use this method to facilitate the finding of the simillimum. It turned out to be the case so I am grateful to Scholten for at least bringing new interest to the Period Table and Homeopathy. However, I proved that we do not have to "speculate" about unknown elements and experiment with these "new" unproven remedies on our patients. If we want to do experimentation, let' s follow Hahnemann's lead: let's conduct provings on ourselves and family members!

GC: Some homeopaths are concerned about the difference between the way Kent practiced homeopathy, that is, using single doses of high potencies, and the way Hahnemann describes the fifty millesimal potency method in the 6th edition of the Organon. On your website it says you treat people exclusively with LM potencies. I have heard it said that Hahnemann may have had a touch of senility when he wrote the sixth edition. From your experience and study, how do you compare the value of Kent's method vs the LM method?

Dr. Luc: It is not correct that I treated patients exclusively with LM potencies but I certainly was one of the first in this country to treat patients with LM potencies in the correct way. However the discovery of the 5th edition split method, to which I came later, was a huge improvement in treating patients. LMs are very penetrating and fast working and patients with their allopathic mindset often abused it in a mechanical way (even homeopaths do it). This always leads to unnecessary similar aggravations (removed from the 6th edition as not being necessary!) and the formation of more complex diseases. Now I would treat at least 70% of the chronic patient cases with the 5th edition split method and 100% of the acutes with this split method. Results are astonishing and if applied worldwide, would change the face of practice of homeopathy. My only hope is that the 90% of the homeopaths stuck in the 4th edition, will take advantage of these advanced methods of Hahnemann and see the remarkable, speedy and gentle cures as promised in A2 of the Organon. It is Kent who steered all the next generations of homeopaths on the wrong path, as he never bothered to use the 5th edition split method (which he could have-1833!) and with his belief that the "dose (or amount of pellets) was of no importance". This goes into the face of everything Hahnemann said and what every observing practitioner has seen. Although in his Lesser Writings , Kent stated that "no similar aggravation" is what we need to strive for, he was known to have caused countless severe aggravations. Unfortunately, even well known homeopaths today, think that they need to cause a "similar aggravation" in order to know they applied the simillimum, something Hahnemann had removed from his teachings in the 6th edition of the Organon (A161). Kent and therefore most homeopaths under his influence, never even applied watery doses and never dared to repeat a dose "while the patient was improving, A246." Regarding the "myth" that Hahnemann was suffering from senility in his later years, it is a cheap excuse for those who claim so to abandon Hahnemann's teachings and apply their own frivolities. One only has to study the microfiches of his Paris years and read statements from those that were present in those years (Dr Croserio, read Lesser Writings of von Boenninghausen) to observe that until the last days of his life he remained a staunch intellectual, industrious 'till the end to provide us with his last legacy, the LM potency. For more about this split method and Hahnemann’s later years, I refer the reader to my book, " Achieving and Maintaining the Simillimum."

Books

GC: We have listed several of your books - could you give a one-line explanation of each, to indicate how/when it might best be used:

Human Condition Critical – Dr. Luc:   A thorough introduction to the public as how the homeopath and the patient should approach disease and treatment in a homeopathic way.

The People's Repertory – Dr. Luc: The family handbook as how to match the symptoms experienced to the indicated homeopathic remedy with dosage and description of those remedies.

Hahnemann Revisited – Dr. Luc: THE textbook for every practitioner, beginning student or advanced practitioner. Is the textbook in many schools worldwide.

Homeopathy and the Periodic Table – Dr. Luc: For the advanced student in homeopathy, to discover yet another method to find the Simillimum. With invaluable insight in the application of Dreams in homeopathy.

Achieving and Maintaining the Simillimum – Dr. Luc: The long awaited companion book to Hahnemann Revisited. Unique in its nature as it is the first book in homeopathic history fully dedicated to the management of the homeopathic patient, the most difficult part of treatment. A must in every practice!

Renaissance Institute

GC: Is there a particular attitude or feeling that you like to encourage among the students at RI?

Dr. Luc: There is only one attitude I like to encourage: be faithful first to Hahnemann’s teachings and always build on his principles. Second: in order to become a good practitioner (which you OWE to the patient), you will have to study countless hours of homeopathy. If you want to become a master in anything, studiousness, perseverance, honesty and love for that profession are indispensable!

GC: What might students find at the RI that they wouldn't find at other homeopathic schools?

Dr. Luc: I have been in schools worldwide and was present on many seminars. I was always astonished to see first that hardly a method was taught to find the simillimum, and second, worst of all, hardly any management was ever instructed, depriving the student of the most important aspect of the methodology. How often have I heard, "I gave the patient this remedy and five months later he was all better." Is this what we see in the practice? Of course not! You are lucky if the patient does not phone you the next day with questions and reactions. My books are all based on my teachings and I teach five different methods to find the simillimum in my schools.

GC: When and what was your initial vision of the Renaissance Institute, and how has it grown and changed until today? With regards to the course content, in what ways do you feel it is still evolving, and in what ways has it reached a steady state?

Dr. Luc: I was disappointed initially with what I could receive in other schools. This encouraged me to follow my own path and study the old masters (in Ann Harbor, MI), reviewing thousands of pages of the old journals. This was my real education. In 1993 I founded my own school, RICH. Regarding homeopathic education in the US, homeopathy has to struggle against much misconception and the usual allopathic suppression. As long as homeopathy is not a "recognized profession," homeopathy is obstructed in its progress. Homeopathy must follow the lead of the acupuncture schools, but even they had to fight for a long time and are not considered a threat to the pharmaceutical companies as homeopathy is. I am afraid that the struggle will remain and that the idea of creating a 4 year homeopathic school in this country that is part of the Medical Board of Assurance will remain a pipe dream. It has been tried many times before, but for many different reasons always remained unsuccessful. Such schools can only be created in poor countries like India and South Africa, or in future countries where there is a large segment of dirt poor people.

GC: How do the Renaissance Institute students learn conventional medical sciences - anatomy, physiology, biochemistry?

Dr. Luc: Most of my students are licensed in their own profession and have been exposed more or less to the conventional medical sciences. I always have encouraged the lay people in my school, to enroll in community colleges to follow these courses, even more, I encouraged them to become a nurse, acupuncturist, psychotherapist, etc and many have followed my advice. Again, only when we are able to create a school like the acupuncture schools, can this become part of our homeopathic school program.

GC: At what stage does RI encourage the use of homeopathic software for research, repertorization and case analysis: beginner, intermediate or advanced?

Dr. Luc: I strongly object to the use of software in the first year of education. Too many times have I seen on seminars that students were expecting all the answers of the computer, simply because they were never taught to determine the value of symptoms (A153). Doing the hard work first in books will facilitate the use of these software programs. If I would encourage buying one program, it would be Boger's Von Boenninghausen (BG2) program, as long as you have been taught how to use it as this information sadly does not come with the computer program.

GC: Do you encourage students to get involved in cases with serious pathology ? Have you or your school ever documented significant improvement in such cases?

Dr. Luc: A well-trained homeopath is inevitably drawn in his practice to serious pathology. I have experienced this myself in my whole career. Is it not so that the homeopath is often the last to be consulted by desperate patients, once they have been given up by allopathy and other modalities? While we would prefer differently, we still can do much good. And for us, there are only patients with a disease, not diseases. The knowledge of the miasmatic theory is certainly a must in treating and understanding severe pathological cases. Regarding documentation: I had nothing but the opportunity to do so during my practice and several of my excellent students are able to do this now too. Of course, because it is not in a double blind study, these wonderful, successful cases will be called "anecdotal." I am pleased to have had so many anecdotal cures in my career and time permitting, I will involve myself more in serious studies with homeopathic treatment regarding specific diseases, which would be more acceptable to the allopathic world.

GC: What would your say to prospective students who are considering trying to learn homeopathy by reading books , rather than taking a course of study?

Dr. Luc: First of all, I wished that my own books that I wrote were available when I started as a homeopathic student. It would have saved me much trouble and failure; I had to do it the hard way, not the high way! As mentioned before, I have much to thank from sticking my nose in all those old homeopathic journals. Taking a course of study versus a school program? I wrote a nine page article (will appear in AJHM this winter) about how to motivate the student to commitment of homeopathic studies through "innovative" methods. Like any stool to sit on, we need at least three legs: first a capable teacher, second a dedicated smart student and third a method to be taught. Anything less will not do. But what is the point if the school offers clinical supervision and the supervisor is inadequate in management? Is this a case of the blind leading the blind? Homeopathy's greatest threat, like before, is inadequate teaching and indoctrination in theories that are deviating from our basic laws. And not many find the time, perseverance and opportunity to study on their own for years at the time, 8 hours a day, seven days a week. Personally I like the camaraderie and new friendships created in our classes and the support each student provides the other.

GC: What is the educational background of most of the people who attend RI? Is there a common attitude found among most students of RI, which may not be so common in other schools? What homeopathic certification exam does graduation from RI prepare one for? Is more study necessary for the certification exam? Are there any state licensing exams that can be written after graduation? What clinical experience does the RI provide?

Dr. Luc: Most people attending my schools are professionals in some health branch and as I mentioned before, those that are not, I encourage strongly becoming a health practitioner. Not only because some allopathic knowledge will make it easier to practice, but also because the homeopath will have more influence in his community. I used to do school tests on regular basis but have found it to be counterproductive. Some students are intimidated by written exams; above all, it took too much time away from my teachings. And the best always survive. I do every weekend live, clinical cases and these cases are followed up for their management each subsequent month, year after year if possible. The students (in small groups) work on the live case first before I provide my assessment. It gives me the opportunity to go around and see who and where he student is struggling. That is more productive than what I did in the past. As I said before, the motivation of the student, if he wants just to dabble a little in homeopathy or become a good practitioner, is not determined with some exams. He needs to examine his own character daily and put his best foot forward. There are no state licensing examinations in this country no matter what they want you to believe. The CHC exam is an attempt to test people but coming from all kinds of different programs, and put together by practitioners themselves who are stuck in the 4th edition, I put little importance on it as it does not allow you to be "licensed" in homeopathy and in my opinion does not reflect if you are a good practitioner.

GC: What is the most important thing for a student to be aware of, in order to establish a successful practice of homeopathy?

Dr. Luc: I was never in any phone book during my years of practice and my biggest problem was to handle the mass of patients. Good work does its public relations by itself. I never hesitated to be a mouth piece for homeopathy through speeches, lectures, work shops and of course writing. Anyone of us can do this (there is always Arg-n for those who tremble at the thought) and it is more productive than paying much money for advertising. Treat what you think you can, and above all treat yourself first by looking at what Jung called, your "shadow side." You would be surprised that you can find your simillimum there! !

GC: Can you name some graduates who have gone on to establish successful, full time practices? Who have written books, or contributed at seminars or with provings?

Dr. Luc: There are several students of mine that have a successful practice. None of them have written books but they are often locally involved in spreading the word of homeopathy through lecturing. I guess they leave the writing of books to me.

GC: Where do you hold classes, and how do people get more information?

Dr. Luc: For the moment, I am holding regular classes in NJ, CO and NV (Las Vegas), as well as everywhere else in the world upon invitation. However, things can change rapidly in my world and I wish I could tell you where I will be next year. But for more information, one can always write to drluc@cybermesa.com or visit my web site www.drluc.com

End of part 2.

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